Draft Discussion List Guidlines/subscriber review
ktoneal at cox.net
ktoneal at cox.net
Fri Sep 29 21:34:33 PDT 2006
MJ,
Please do not sell yourself short by refusing to take credit for your contributions. Your input was invaluable. Your attitude is even more so.
Kt
---- mjfritz <mjfritz at cox.net> wrote:
> I do not want to take away from Robin's need to reply with comments.
> It is more input than I have given to the release of the new guidelines. :)
> I just hope that we can all look at all new ideas objectively and offer any
> improvements we may see fit.
> It seems counter productive to question without concepts of resolution.
>
> I think the comment of "not joining the committee" stems from the statement:
> "Some of the most strident opposition to Moderators were on this guideline
> committee..."
> The committee was open to all parties interested; anyone with clear goals or
> an ideal mindset of the future of the listserv was able to join the group
> and contribute. Ironicly the same parties defending the list were the same
> parties to step up to the plate and attempt to improve it and make it user
> friendly for all. Rather than question their motives lets all assist them in
> producing the most effective tool for the community as a whole.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <vcampo1 at cox.net>
> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Draft Discussion List Guidlines/subscriber review
>
>
> > This proposal was sent to the list for comment. Robin sent her comments.
> > Now, it appears, she is being criticized for sharing those comments
> > because (a.) she could have joined the committee but didn't and (b.) she
> > offered comments without suggestions.
> >
> > I don't get it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Jo Clute <josepi at doitnow.com> wrote:
> >> Roobin,
> >>
> >> What were your specific suggestions?
> >>
> >> Please share those with us also..
> >>
> >> Everyone was invited to be on the committee.
> >>
> >> This proposal incorporated EVERY single suggestion we, the comittee,
> >> recieved from everyone who provided input
> >>
> >> we also sent the proposal out and again asked for futher input. And
> >> refined it again.
> >>
> >> The result is what we have shared with everyone in "public" everything
> >> has been disclosed.
> >>
> >> thank you for your input........?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: roobin
> >> To: Central City Discussion
> >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:33 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Draft Discussion List Guidlines/subscriber review
> >>
> >>
> >> Observations:
> >> 1. This proposal is very similar to the existing system.
> >> 2. The Delete key is still your only control.
> >> 3. There are no provisions for enforcement.
> >> 4. Some of the most strident opposition to Moderators were on this
> >> guideline committee, and without enforcement self-moderation equals no
> >> moderation.
> >> 5. Those on the listserve any amount of time have seen many numerous
> >> posts to "play nice" with one another. If past requests for self
> >> moderation were unsuccessful, why would this one be?
> >>
> >> R.
> >>
> >> PS: If the committee is receiving comments on this proposal in private,
> >> please share them.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Wayne Murray
> >> To: Gcna-Members
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:02 AM
> >> Subject: Draft Discussion List Guidelines/subscriber review
> >>
> >>
> >> Draft Proposal from Discussion List Committee for Subscriber review,
> >> comment and input.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> History: Concerns have been raised as to the present discussion list
> >> format. If you are a subscriber you are aware of these concerns.
> >>
> >> Action: The board of the GCNA appointed a committee to "look into
> >> the problems" and recommend "solutions".
> >>
> >> Where we are now: Attached is a draft of the proposed format of the
> >> discussion list. It is open for comment, suggestions, and changes.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is ironic that the committee was made up in part by those who were
> >> viewed as being unique to the "problem". So it has been interesting to
> >> discover how and why things occurred, as well as discuss resolution and
> >> prevention. We spent a lot of time selecting from the archive those
> >> times when "concern" may have been in order, discovering patterns and
> >> coming up with solutions. We also searched the internet for examples of
> >> similar discussion lists and their rules and codes of conduct.
> >> Additionally, we set up an e-mail box whatevercomments at cox.net to
> >> receive comments from individuals.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Discussion List has a unique role to play in the Coronado
> >> Neighborhood. It is an entry point for new residents. A place for those
> >> who can't attend or don't like meetings. A place to see if and
> >>
> >> how you may want to become more involved. A place to engage in
> >> exciting politics, passionate issues, and information exchange. We
> >> thought it very important that it operate in real time, as that is what
> >> most of the threads were all about. It would be impossible to operate it
> >> through delayed postings. We also thought it very important that
> >> subscribers be empowered to moderate the information coming into their
> >> own computers, but at the same time not moderate what someone else may
> >> desire to have come into theirs. We hope that along with giving you that
> >> responsibility, we have provided you with the tools to customize the
> >> list to serve to your standards. Safety and caution with regard to
> >> personal information, on this list serv, originates and ends with you.
> >> We hope we have given you a guide for that also.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When you are reviewing the Discussion List proposal keep in mind what
> >> we have preserved. It is only one part of the information resource
> >> available to Coronado. Others exist, also. If you prefer a more
> >> structured format we invite you to rediscover the Discussion Forum at
> >> http://www.gcna.info/forum.htm as an alternate to the discussion list.
> >> Or you may join the Announcement Group, if that is what you would prefer.
> >> See below:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joining the Announcements Group
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The announcements group is a usergroup that allows you to receive
> >> announcements in your email from administrators of the Forums. This
> >> group can be joined voluntarily. You can also remove yourself at any
> >> time.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To join the group:
> >>
> >> . Log In to the Forum.
> >>
> >> . Click Usergroups from the menu at the top of the screen.
> >>
> >> . Under Current Memberships, select Announcements.
> >>
> >> . Click View Information.
> >>
> >> . On the following screen, click Join Group.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Once you have joined, an email will go to a moderator. The
> >> moderator
> >>
> >> will approve your membership, and you will then be able to receive
> >> any
> >>
> >> announcements that are sent out by the administrator or GCNA Board
> >> Member.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Discussion List Committee is looking for your input into this
> >> proposed solution. Again the proposal is attached here as a word
> >> document.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is our goal to maintain the list serve as a unique part of the
> >> Diversity offered to the residents of Coronado and beyond.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Discuss this online or send comments to Whatevercoments at cox.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance for your interest in making this a better place.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Collect responsibility...don't give it away"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Submitted by Discussion List Serve Committee Members
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> --Note--
> >> By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list.
> >> Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to
> >> post
> >> to the central-city-discuss list.
> >>
> >> --Disclaimer--
> >> The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official
> >> position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This
> >> e-mail
> >> list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or
> >> editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood
> >> Association.
> >>
> >> To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> --Note--
> >> By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list.
> >> Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post
> >> to the central-city-discuss list.
> >>
> >> --Disclaimer--
> >> The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official
> >> position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail
> >> list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or
> >> editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association.
> >>
> >> To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > --Note--
> > By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list.
> > Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post
> > to the central-city-discuss list.
> >
> > --Disclaimer--
> > The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official
> > position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail
> > list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or
> > editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association.
> >
> > To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> --Note--
> By replying to this email, you will be sending to the entire list.
> Be sure to change the recipient of the email if you do not want to post
> to the central-city-discuss list.
>
> --Disclaimer--
> The messages exchanged on this list in no way reflect the official
> position of the Greater Coronado Neighborhood association. This e-mail
> list is maintained by an outside source, with no financial tie, or
> editorial directive from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood Association.
>
> To maintain your subscription, visit http://www.gcna.info/list
More information about the central-city-discuss
mailing list