Discussion list/comments and suggestions
Wayne Murray
wayne at xnar.com
Fri Sep 29 21:33:02 PDT 2006
I have been requested to answer the "private suggestions" comment.
Many of these came in with the request that they remain from an unknown
source (differing reasons).
* The "whatever cards" were mostly about the meeting, and no
specific to the list serve.
* Adding "religion" to Guidelines 2-A.
* This looks great - I did make a couple of changes to typos, etc.
(Doc with changes attached.)
You did a wonderful job - thank you
* Under what is the list serve for, deleted "This list serve is not
affiliated with and is separate from the Greater Coronado Neighborhood
Association." Are you sure as to the status of affiliation with the GCNA.?
* Added under you agree to, G. You agree not to forward to the list
serve, private messages that were intended to remain private and not posted
to the list serve. This will be considered inflammatory posting in all
cases.
* Changed under you agree to, A. "Send to all" has been changed to
"reply to all".
* Under you agree to A. Kevin (web master) changed the MB size from
1MB to 2MB, to reflect the new list guidelines.
* Changed at the very end a welcoming statement. "Thanks for joining
our online community. We would appreciate if you would announce in your
first post if you are new to the list. We would like the chance to welcome
you on a more personal basis.
Enjoy and help it grow!"
The skeleton framework was researched by Coronado resident outside of the
committee in the Coronado, on the web, for different kinds of "models" we
could begin to work off of.
Kevin the webmaster provided a lot of technical support as to what could and
couldn't be done. I will spare you the "exchanges".
During drafting by the committee a few subscribers requested to see what was
being constructed, that is where some of the bulleted comments came from
above and why they may seem strange. As we e-mailed them the draft in its
preliminary stage.
It bounced around between committee members and changes were made using
"track changes" so I don't have those available. Committee members sent
copies to friends and family for review also, it arrived back to us changed.
Some of the suggestions come to us by way of researching the archives; we
were discovering what the problem was and found that people had been
offering solutions. Some of these were also incorporated into the draft.
Here is another example as to the format that suggestions came in:
Good timing! Yesterday's digest was 138 pages long.
Many discussion list guidelines mention the netiquette of trimming your
posts, specifically for the benefit of people who use the digest form.
Yesterday we had one person respond via the digest without trimming, so of
course that message included the entire 20 message digest from the previous
day. Then someone else responded to the first message and we again got the
full 20 message digest. The first poster probably learned a lesson, but it
seems that lesson has to be relearned every few weeks. I'm sure many
digesters didn't bother reading the entire 138 pages.
Another issue is the use of attachments and images. Because the digest is
delivered in plain text, people on the digest do not see the images and
cannot download the attachments. The digest does provide a URL for the
attachment. Yesterday was the first time I tried that and it didn't work.
Obviously digesters know that we are not receiving the full message. My
concern here is primarily for the posters. If you put an image in your
message, not everyone will see it. Same with attachments.
Here is proposed text for the guidelines.
Please trim your posts. Many of our subscribers receive your messages in
the digest format and must scroll down each full post to see the all
messages. Including lengthy thread histories discourages subscribers from
reading the entire digest.
Images and Attachments. You are welcome to add images and attachments to
your posts. However, please be aware that subscribers to the digest format
will not see the images. Attachments are not included in the digest.
Thanks,
This is what I could find that is still left on my computer
and easy to cut and paste.
I hope this answers your question.
Something like this has been needed for sometime now, we are
looking forward to moving this into a reality at the October 5th General
Meeting, please attend.
Wayne
Bureau of Guardians committee member #5
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