Graffitti

[thisrocks at mac.com]

I believe that we must first try "optimism" and hope for the best. If  
the owners of the run-down apartments do not make serious effort in  
upgrading the properties in order to attract a renters at least two  
steps up the ladder, then together we will have to put another kind  
of pressure on them - something like "get out."

I'm pretty sure that ASU would do a survey of the area and recognize  
that a problem exists with the existing run-down apartments - and  
perhaps help pave the way for something better. What do you think  
Jody? If ASU does back your project, do you think their support would  
be that strong?

Does anyone know of other instances (in Arizona or elsewhere) where a  
university has strong-armed (ok, maybe not the best word) another  
property owner to "shapeup or get out?"

-Aaron

On Sep 23, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Wayne Murray wrote:

A comment from the evil landlord.



The owners bought those places almost like new.  They were "allowed"  
to be run down.  Anyone smart enough to have sufficient capital to  
purchase them is smart enough to figure out how to keep them in good  
condition.  If not they should not be in the rental business for  
their own sake.  It they are and let them go then they should not be  
in the rental business for "our" sake.  Airlines don't let their  
planes fall from the sky, restaurants don't poison their customers?   
These owners take money each month from the people that live there,  
the relationship is satisfying to "both" or it would not exist.   
These are individuals who know how to rub two nickels together; they  
don't care and are not in the investment for the long term.



They and their apartments are sick, and when they both cough the  
neighborhood gets ill.



I support Jo and her vision and project, however do not envy her if  
she thinks these persons can become partners in that vision.....they  
don't see it, can't see it, and they never will.



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Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Graffitti



Jo,

I just feel the need to point out that instead of condemning the  
owners of the apartments you chose instead to talk to them about a  
possible solution.  I just think that this type of behavior deserves  
applause. So I applaud you!

Is there anything the rest of us can do to help with the solution?



And Ruth, it is nice to see you back. We appreciate the info.





---- Jo Clute <josepi at doitnow.com> wrote:

 > Ruth,

 >

 > I am going to use your message as a segway if that's ok.  I own  
the vacant

 > property smack dab in the middle of those barracks type apts.  The  
crime

 > there is rampant and the owners of these properties are durressed  
about the

 > situation as well.  I am working on a project to turn this section  
of Oak

 > into student/artist housing.

 >

 > But doing so is where the trouble lies.  I have been working on  
and off

 > this project for over a year and it has been a lot more difficult  
than I had

 > anticipated.

 >

 > HOWEVER,  I met with ASU college of Architecture just  last week  
and they

 > are in the process of accepting that section (my property) as one  
of their

 > Urban Workshops.  ASU comes with a LOT of PR which would generate  
interest

 > in this section and hopefully pull the artists/students into this  
section.

 >

 > I have talked with most of the owners and they are willing to do  
whatever it

 > takes to convert this section from where it is.  They can't attract

 > different tenants and it seems to be an endless cycle.  Most of  
the crime in

 > Coronado streams from this section to the rest of the neighborhood  
via Oak,

 > especially when they head towards the Sunshine Market.

 >

 > Anyway I think the grafitti in this area is indicative of a much  
greater

 > problem that needs to be handled at its core level.

 >

 > Until then, I keep a can of Kilz and spare exterior paint for when  
the alley

 > side of my house gets tagged as it seems to happen seasonably.

 >

 > Welcome back to the list, we've been wondering where you've been :-)

 >

 > Jody

 >

 >

 > ----- Original Message -----

 > From: "Ruth & Rusty Rapp" <paris4545 at cox.net>

 > To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>

 > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:51 PM

 > Subject: Re: Graffitti

 >

 >

 > > There has also been a lot of graffitti lately near those ghetto  
apartments

 > > at 15th St. and Oak (SE corner). There are even a couple of  
"blank" signs

 > > on

 > > the property itself that are covered in it. I have reported this to

 > > Graffitti Busters a couple of times...they've painted over the  
crap, but

 > > it

 > > soon reappears, of course. How easy for the tenants, they just  
have to

 > > step

 > > right outside their doors, spray paint can in hand!

 > >

 > > I personally would have liked to see those apartments TORN DOWN.

 > >

 > > Ruth

 > >

 > >

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