Violent early morning repo

Fri Aug 25 09:09:58 PDT 2006

Wm,

the reference column states the thread, please just delete the email.  Its 
pretty disturbing to hear people like Leach (and many might say the same 
thing about me) but I want people to know who our neighbors are and if the 
rants don't happen then my right to hear it have been compromised.  however, 
having the right to delete gives each and everyone of us the right to do as 
we wish.
I know to stay clear of Leach because he sounds trigger happy if you ask me.

Regardless, this is life, we can't change its circumstances at times, but we 
are all 100% in control of our reaction to it.

Clute Out

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michelle Steinberg" <malka16 at cox.net>
To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Violent early morning repo

> Whoops, I forgot to sign my last note to Brian
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Leach" <bleach9 at cox.net>
> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Violent early morning repo
>
>
>> In the repo man's defense, perhaps he felt threatened, making the gun a
>> totally legitimate excuse.  Put yourself in his shoes and see if you'd
>> think
>> it was a barrel of fun to go repo some deadbeat's car in the middle of 
>> the
>> night and be confronted by the deadbeat and several of his friends.
>>
>> Besides, guns are legal.  The right to own and carry one (or two, or
>> fifteen) is protected under the Constitution.   Thank God the liberals
>> haven't been able to change that - yet.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jo Clute" <josepi at doitnow.com>
>> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Violent early morning repo
>>
>>
>>> there is no excuse for weapons.  I am not condoning that in any way.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ivana Olson" <hazey_marie at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Violent early morning repo
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's what got me.. when I first heard the shouting I thought the car
>>>> was
>>>> being stolen.
>>>>
>>>> Financial issues aside, I think the repo person should be required to
>>>> give
>>>> the people a chance before assuming the worst and pulling a gun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>> From: "Jo Clute" <josepi at doitnow.com>
>>>> Reply-To: central-city-discuss at gcna.info
>>>> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
>>>> Subject: Re: Violent early morning repo
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:25:52 -0700
>>>>
>>>> A friend of mine used to repo cars and from what I know its usually the
>>>> car
>>>> owners pulling the guns on the tow truck drivers. So the drivers are
>>>> always
>>>> skidish to begin with  but I had a roommates car being repod on my old
>>>> house
>>>> on 12th st and the event scared me so bad having someone come into my
>>>> property and coming inches from hitting my boat that once I realized
>>>> what
>>>> was going on I gated him in and called the police.
>>>>
>>>> I then flipped out on my roommate for putting me in that position.  I
>>>> thought I was being robbed and I was waking up being terrorized.   But
>>>> when
>>>> people don't make their car payments and aren't in communication with
>>>> their
>>>> bank, what do they expect is eventually going to happen?  fiscal
>>>> responsibility,proper financial planning, and flexible spending habits,
>>>> are
>>>> just so imperative.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Ivana Olson" <hazey_marie at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <central-city-discuss at gcna.info>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Violent early morning repo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Just recently (about 2:30am) the house had gotten quiet and I heard
>>>> > some
>>>> > car
>>>> > doors slam and the neighbors car alarm was going off. I looked out 
>>>> > the
>>>> > window to make sure it wasn't our new car, since I'm not familiar 
>>>> > with
>>>> > it's
>>>> > alarm yet and I didn't see anything here or across the street (which
>>>> > is
>>>> > where the alarms usually come from). A few minutes later I heard loud
>>>> > shouting and lots of cuss words very clearly coming from outside.
>>>> >
>>>> > A man with a tow truck had backed up to my next door neighbors
>>>> > driveway
>>>> > and
>>>> > hooked their car up to his truck. The neighbors heard their car alarm
>>>> > go
>>>> > off
>>>> > and came outside to see what was going on. The tow truck driver
>>>> > ignored
>>>> > them
>>>> > at first, continuing to hook up the the car to his truck, then when
>>>> > they
>>>> > couldn't get an explanation out of him they blocked his truck with
>>>> > their
>>>> > recycle can (I'm assuming to get his attention?)
>>>> >
>>>> > The tow truck driver then pulled out a gun and started yelling and
>>>> cussing
>>>> > at them. This was all going on when I got to the window closest to
>>>> > their
>>>> > drive way and was able to get a closer look. He grabbed the recycle
>>>> > can
>>>> > and
>>>> > threw it back at my neighbors (2 young hispanic couples who have been
>>>> very
>>>> > quiet and pretty good neighbors to us). One of my neighbors ran 
>>>> > inside
>>>> > to
>>>> > call the police and the tow truck driver got in his truck and sped 
>>>> > off
>>>> > with
>>>> > their car.
>>>> >
>>>> > When the police got here I went out to see if everything was okay and
>>>> > maybe
>>>> > offer what I saw if they needed it but even with 3 policemen no one
>>>> > would
>>>> > talk to me, even when I told them I saw what happened. I overheard 
>>>> > one
>>>> cop
>>>> > telling the neighbors that the towing company called them ahead of
>>>> > time
>>>> to
>>>> > say they would be picking up the car.
>>>> >
>>>> > None of this explained the violence used or the gun he pulled, though
>>>> > and
>>>> > I'm wondering if they even believed my neighbors when they were
>>>> > reporting
>>>> > the incident. Seeing as how they wouldn't even listen to what I saw I
>>>> > figure
>>>> > they were either ignoring me or they believe the neighbors story and
>>>> don't
>>>> > care.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is this common practice when a car is reposessed? Is the towing
>>>> > company
>>>> > really allowed to come at 2:30 in the morning and pull a gun on the
>>>> > owners??
>>>> >
>>>> > This really concerns me. These neighbors have never shown any loud or
>>>> > violent behavior and even with what I saw tonight they weren't more
>>>> > than
>>>> > passive agressive, understandable as they obviously didn't know why
>>>> > someone
>>>> > was taking their car out of their driveway.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't know about their finances or if they were warned ahead of 
>>>> > time
>>>> > about
>>>> > the repo but I know they were taken by suprise and that this incident
>>>> > really
>>>> > scared them, as it did me.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Ivana
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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